Trump’s Scary NATO Confusion

Donald Trump doesn’t understand NATO. Claiming missing payments is blatant nonsense. No country is in default on membership payment. 2% of GNP is suggested for their own defense, not as NATO payment.  GNPs vary, depending upon each country’s funding. Countries with effective defense need less than 2% No cost impacts US!

Far more important is the mutual protection of NATO, in existence for 75 years, with growing membership. No NATO country has been attacked since becoming a member. Why has Putin been resisting Sweden and Finland’s membership? Why is Putin so afraid of NATO, and why has he worked on Trump to trick him into supporting him? The reason is obvious: Putin doesn’t dare to attack a NATO country, and never has, rightfully fearing compact retribution if he were stupid enough to do so. Would he ever attack Ukraine if that country were a member? Not a chance.

Thanks to NATO, Putin wouldn’t dare to attack the US, while Hitler had planned to drop his first test A-bombs on London and NY, prevented by some brave Norwegian skiers who sabotaged the Rjukan heavy water plant, thus delaying the material Hitler so desperately needed. Instead, they were able to divert some to the US, – for the benefit of the Manhattan project.

What a difference, preventing heavy water from falling in adversarial hands, v. carrying the lighter variety for our adversary, even pulling out of NATO, and encouraging Putin to attack other countries! The epitome of insanity!

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Allan Ward
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Allan Ward
10 months ago

Gosh, Jorg!
“Countries with effective defense need less than 2%”
Once again I suggest that you should read some history.
In 2014 the heads of state and governments of the NATO membership agreed to spend 2% of their GDP on defense.
Those “countries that need less” are freeloaders riding on the backs of those countries that pay their obligated share, and especially on the backs of US taxpayers

Allan Ward
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Allan Ward
10 months ago

Four years before that 2014 NATO agreement, the US was spending more than 4.5%. Now it’s close to 3%.
It’s quite obvious that none of the other NATO countries need to spend more than 2%., until Oops!, Putin saw the opportunity with Biden, and made his move.
Please be sure to remark on my poorly constructed previous sentence.
It’s important to remind your readers of your superior language skills.

Allan Ward
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Allan Ward
10 months ago

Jorg, I apologize for the use of the word “obligated”; yes, 2% is a guideline.
I referred to ” US taxpayers” because it’s the taxpayers of every nation that fund defense.
Using a rising GDP as cover for backsliding on matching the guideline for defense spending is a flimsy excuse.
However, Norwegian taxpayers who contentedly feel they’ve spent enough, rest easy, apparently without embarrassment, because they know that when the worst happens, Uncle Sugardaddy’s armed forces are there as backup.

AI Ward
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AI Ward
10 months ago
Reply to  Jorg Aadahl

First I’d like to assure you that I have always admired the Norwegian military and equipment, and particularly admire the anti-Nazi accomplishments of the military and civilians of Norway during WWII.

Secondly, I know what NATO’s Article 5 is.

The current US President constantly bleats that all taxpayers should pay “their fair share”.
Why shouldn’t that Progressive idea apply to Norway’s taxpayers/defense contribution to NATO?
With Norway’s fat sovereign wealth fund the taxpayers could easily afford to spend more to make their military even more lethal to the enemy, like the US does, by applying Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity training for the Armed Forces.

AI Ward
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AI Ward
9 months ago
Reply to  AI Ward

Per what I could find on line, so far, US has contributed $73B, and EU countries $27B, to support Ukraine’s war with Russia.
Apparently, grumbling by Republicans in the House has gotten the attention of Europeans, because I heard on today’s news the the Germans and others are beginning to realize that some of Uncle Sam’s purse string watchers are getting wise.

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